{"id":5454,"date":"2024-01-25T06:24:00","date_gmt":"2024-01-25T06:24:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/dev.matsio.com\/matsio\/saasboomi\/?p=5454"},"modified":"2024-06-18T19:06:37","modified_gmt":"2024-06-18T19:06:37","slug":"what-commerceiq-unlearned-to-shine-in-vertical-saas","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/dev.matsio.com\/matsio\/saasboomi\/saas\/growth\/what-commerceiq-unlearned-to-shine-in-vertical-saas\/","title":{"rendered":"What vertical SaaS unicorn CommerceIQ had to unlearn from horizontal SaaS playbook"},"content":{"rendered":"<blockquote><p>\u201cWhether you\u2019re talking to other founders or looking up books and blogs, they teach you the wrong thing when it comes to vertical SaaS. They made me commit a lot of mistakes. Even <a href=\"https:\/\/saasboomi.org\/saas\/finance\/what-investors-look-out-for-by-dave-kellogg\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">investors are not able to give you the proper advice<\/a> because they\u2019re usually working on horizontal SaaS\u2026 We are now a billion-dollar-plus-valued company, but it came with a lot of battle wounds,\u201d says Guru Hariharan, founder and CEO of CommerceIQ.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>The company, based in Palo Alto, Seattle, and Bangalore, helps retail brands with algorithmic ecommerce on channels like Amazon. Hariharan calls it the Shopify of ecommerce. While Shopify helps brands build an online presence, CommerceIQ helps them interface algorithmically with ecommerce marketplaces, where 90% of their sales are happening.<\/p>\n<p>Algorithms determine everything on a site like Amazon. So brands also need automation with SaaS products to make ecommerce algorithms work to their advantage. In the old days, they would deploy human managers to build relationships with physical retailers, jostling for shelf space or figuring out pricing. Now algorithms decide shelf positioning, as in showing up in search results, and competitive pricing, which can keep shifting. \u201cAnd you can\u2019t take an algorithm out to dinner,\u201d quips Hariharan. You let a <a href=\"https:\/\/saasboomi.org\/saas\/growth\/generational-shift-to-ai-saas-in-india\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">SaaS product with an AI brain<\/a> talk to the algorithm.<\/p>\n<p>Hariharan gravitated towards machine learning during his MS at the University of Texas, Austin, and a stint at IBM Research. \u201cIt attracted me because of the foundation of math and the amount of stuff you can do with data that can be very impactful.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>He earned his spurs on the practical applications of ML at Amazon, where his team automated vendor management. \u201cFor the first time in the history of retailing, we replaced people with machines on the retailer side to work with the millions of vendors you need to build the Earth\u2019s largest selection of products. It allowed Amazon to remove the human capital bottleneck in its expansion to tens of millions or even 100 million plus vendor and seller entities.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>It was during that period in the late noughties, as the head of the Amazon Dev Center at Phoenix and manager of Amazon Seller Services, that he had an epiphany. \u201cAmazon was becoming an algorithm that other retailers would have to compete with. And in any human vs. algorithm contest, it\u2019s hard for the human to win.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>That led to his first startup, Boomerang Commerce, which built a dynamic pricing engine to help other retailers compete with Amazon. Seven years later in 2019, he sold Boomerang\u2019s retail analytics platform to Lowe\u2019s. He then focused on Boomerang\u2019s offshoot CommerceIQ which became a separate business to help brands deal with the algorithms on the retailer side. Three years later it became a unicorn with a $115 million fund raise.<\/p>\n<p>Hariharan learned his lessons the hard way in Boomerang Commerce and tried not to repeat those mistakes in CommerceIQ. Now, for the first time, he shares his hard-earned <a href=\"https:\/\/saasboomi.org\/saas\/growth\/playbook-to-launch-products-in-vertical-saas\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">playbook for vertical SaaS<\/a>, which he says has to be fundamentally different from what you use in horizontal SaaS. Let\u2019s dive into his three most important lessons.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone wp-image-5460 size-full\" src=\"https:\/\/dev.matsio.com\/matsio\/saasboomi\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/01\/CommerceIQ_1.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1261\" height=\"595\" \/ loading=\"lazy\" srcset=\"https:\/\/dev.matsio.com\/matsio\/saasboomi\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/01\/CommerceIQ_1.jpg 1261w, https:\/\/dev.matsio.com\/matsio\/saasboomi\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/01\/CommerceIQ_1-768x362.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1261px) 100vw, 1261px\" \/><\/p>\n<h2>Lesson 1\/ Don\u2019t believe the usual PMF definition<\/h2>\n<p>\u201cIn a vertical market, you tend to be a domain expert and you can be fooled by the revenue you get because there can be a lot of services underneath which are not repeatable. It\u2019s actually not very difficult <a href=\"https:\/\/saasboomi.org\/saas\/growth\/how-to-get-1-million-arr\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">to get a million dollars in vertical SaaS<\/a>,\u201d says Hariharan. \u201cWe got fooled by that. And just measuring traction by revenue and throwing fuel to the fire almost bankrupted me in my previous company.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Not understanding the true PMF (<a href=\"https:\/\/saasboomi.org\/saas\/product\/how-product-market-fit-changes-between-india-us\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">product-market fit<\/a>) can lead a vertical SaaS founder down the garden path after getting to $1 million in revenue, often spurred on by investors to <a href=\"https:\/\/saasboomi.org\/saas\/marketing\/is-marketing-indias-achilles-heel\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">ramp up marketing<\/a>, hire more sales folk, and so on. Instead, you have to stay focused on finding the real PMF. That was the big learning. It\u2019s different for a horizontal SaaS product applicable in multiple domains, where $1 million ARR can be a signal for blitzscaling.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cA term you hear a lot in CommerceIQ is C3. Whenever we bring a new product in, we just think about three successful customers, not revenue,\u2019\u2019 says Hariharan.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>The milestone he set for CommerceIQ in the first leg of its journey was C20 &#8211; that is, 20 successful customers. \u201cPlease don\u2019t hold me accountable for revenue in the first year,\u201d he told the board.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>This can be jarring in a board meeting where a revenue milestone is usually the first point on the agenda, but Hariharan stuck to his guns, mindful of the scars from Boomerang. \u201cWe actually trained ourselves internally in the company, and the board, that until we hit C20, nobody&#8217;s gonna talk about revenue, and that was very hard,\u201d says Hariharan. \u201cWe maniacally focused on C20 and had a goal of getting to it in 18 months. We got there in 15 months.\u201d<\/p>\n<h2>Lesson 2\/ Don\u2019t miss the trees for the forest<\/h2>\n<p>\u201cMissing the forest for the trees\u201d is an idiom to reminds us that we may not see the larger picture if we focus too hard on the parts. However, vertical SaaS may require you to reverse that idiom because it\u2019s critical to drill down into each domain.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\u201cHorizontal SaaS is seen as infrastructure software to which you add domain knowledge. But the expectation from a vertical SaaS company is that its software codifies a lot of domain knowledge,\u201d says Hariharan.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>CommerceIQ\u2019s path to C20 in its first 15 months had a number of missteps which drove home the point that retail ecommerce management (REM), the vertical SaaS category it was creating, varied from domain to domain. \u201cWe went and sold our product to apparel companies and quickly figured out the product didn\u2019t work there yet. We pulled back very quickly,\u201d says Hariharan.<\/p>\n<p>You had to work in every brand\u2019s domain long enough to be able to codify the domain knowledge and requirements. \u201cSo if you don&#8217;t have TV customers, then you don&#8217;t know how TVs sell. Third-party seller issues are important to them; replenishability is not important for them. Understanding those nuances and baking it into the product becomes critical.\u201d<\/p>\n<h2>Lesson 3 \/ Don\u2019t mess up your product with hypergrowth<\/h2>\n<p>That makes it imperative not to be <a href=\"https:\/\/saasboomi.org\/saas\/finance\/demystifying-evaluation-process-of-investors\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">influenced by VCs on the board to aim for hypergrowth<\/a>. \u201cIt\u2019s doable in horizontal SaaS by throwing fuel (salespeople) on one solid PMF,\u201d says Hariharan.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cYou cannot do that in a vertical market because you have to grow the number of modules by building domain knowledge. You cannot buy your way into it\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\u201cTwo years ago, when all VCs were harping on growth rate, we said, \u2018You know what? We have a path to doubling our revenue but don\u2019t push us to triple, because that&#8217;s just the wrong thing to do.\u201d<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Unit economics for efficiency along with growth is twice as important in vertical SaaS. \u201cNow, of course, in the last six months, people are asking for efficiency metrics, but frankly, this is what I showed in my series D fundraise in January 2022,\u201d says Hariharan. \u201cWe had a burn multiple of just 0.62 in 2021 when everybody was going after growth. They were saying, \u2018Why the hell are you burning only 0.62? Go burn at least 1 (the total net revenue)\u2019.\u201d<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>If you get into the common investor fallacy of pouring dollars for growth, you can mess up your vertical SaaS product.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI actually did that in my earlier startup when I signed up a very large retailer and became a slave to them. We had to show triple growth and didn\u2019t have true PMF,\u201d recalls Hariharan. \u201cSo you end up becoming a professional services company masquerading as a product company. Then it starts to eat away at the company.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>His next startup, CommerceIQ, could never have gotten the trajectory it achieved if its PMF foundations had not been laid by setting C20 (20 successful customers) as the formative target.<\/p>\n<p><em><strong>Part 2: <a href=\"https:\/\/dev.matsio.com\/matsio\/saasboomi\/commerceiq-playbook-to-launch-products-in-vertical-saas\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">CommerceIQ\u2019s playbook to launch products in vertical SaaS<\/a><\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>\u201cWhether you\u2019re talking to other founders or looking up books and blogs, they teach you the wrong thing when it comes to vertical SaaS. They made me commit a lot of mistakes. 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